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History, legends and myths (5): giants

A recent (Dutch) Volkskrant article claims that the Denisovan people were giants. Some even claim 18 foot; others 6-7 foot. Giants are also mentioned elsewhere: “The Nephilim are mysterious beings or humans in the Bible traditionally understood as being of great size and strength [..]” (Wiki).

Giants are often viewed as part of history, legends & myths but is actually far from imaginary.

The 2025 Volkskrant article reminded me of the so-called Droste effect and a 2020 ScienceAlert that was entitled: Study Maps The Odd Structural Similarities Between The Human Brain And The Universe. I mentioned that scientific finding in various of my blogs, including The Droste effect (2021).

Source: Art Magazine
Source: ResearchGate

“The most familiar celestial objects, like Earth, the Moon and the Sun, are spheres. The solar system’s planets have orbits that are roughly circular, and zooming out a hundred-millionfold, the Milky Way is a flattened disk. But zooming out by a further factor of 1,000 from the Milky Way, to encompass our nearest non-satellite galaxy Andromeda, and dozens of others, the shapes look different. The arrangement may look haphazard, but it’s ordered in its own way, in a network of filaments with vast walls and voids between them, called the cosmic web.”

Source: Aeon, 24 July 2025, Rivers of galaxies

Suppose this Droste effect (see above) does not stop at those “odd structural similarities”. Then what ??

Perhaps, the answer is in ancient Greek mythology.

“In Greek mythologyAtlas [..] is a Titan condemned to hold up the heavens or sky for eternity after the Titanomachy. [..]

Atlas was said to have been skilled in philosophymathematics, and astronomy. In antiquity, he was credited with inventing the first celestial sphere. In some texts, he is even credited with the invention of astronomy itself.”

Source: Wikipedia – Atlas (mythology)

After all:

“And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost. History became legend. Legend became myth. And for two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge.” The Lord of the Rings

“The universe is alive and conscious, and it responds to our intent when we have our intimate relationship with the universe and see it not as separate but as our extended body.”

Source: a quote from The Spontaneous Fulfillment of Desire (2003) by author Deepak Chopra (b.1946)


UPDATE:

“In the shadowy mountains of ancient Mesopotamia, where the first empires clashed and legends were born, lived a people whose very name meant “cave dwellers”, yet whose influence would echo through millennia of myth and scripture. The Hurrians, fierce mountain warriors with their deadly bows and masterful metalwork. They were the forgotten architects of humanity’s most lasting supernatural stories.

When ancient scribes described enemies with “bodies of cave birds” and “ravens’ faces,” when they told tales of stone giants rising from primordial seas, and when they carved cylinder seals showing gods battling monstrous “birdmen,” they were recording something extraordinary: the Hurrians had become the template for the very concept of giants in human imagination.

Is this just mythology? Recent archaeological discoveries at Tell Mozan, the ancient Hurrian capital of Urkesh, reveal a sophisticated civilization that married princesses to Akkadian emperors, built palaces with 10-meter-thick walls, and created epic poetry that would influence everything from Greek mythology to biblical accounts of the Nephilim. The Hurrians were the missing link between history and legend, the bridge between the human and the divine.

How did a people who first appeared in historical records as allies and enemies of the world’s first empire become the archetypal giants of ancient literature? How did their mountain strongholds become the birthplace of stories about fallen angels and divine seed giving birth to supernatural beings? And why do their dragon-slaying myths still echo in traditions from the Mediterranean to the Persian Gulf?

The answers lie buried in cuneiform tablets, carved in ancient seals, and hidden in plain sight within some of humanity’s oldest stories. This is the remarkable tale of the Hurrians, the giants among ancient peoples who gave the world its giants.

When the veil that covers the dark ages of pre-historic Mesopotamia finally lifted during the third millennium BC when the earliest written records appear, we discover the existence of three different peoples who lived in ancient Mesopotamia and played a crucial role in the formation of that ancient land. They are the enigmatic Sumerians, the Akkadians, who were an eastern Semitic people that lived among the Sumerians, and the Hurrians, who inhabited regions further to the north. Even though other peoples like the Assyrians, Amorites (Babylonians) and Elamites also played an important role in Mesopotamian history later on, these peoples were the founders of Mesopotamian civilisation.

Scholars are not at all sure when the Hurrians first came to inhabit the northern regions of Mesopotamia. Some have postulated a “massive migration of Hurrian speaking peoples” into the northern parts of Mesopotamia during early Akkadian times, perhaps even earlier. Excavations at Urkesh (Tell Morzan), a Hurrian capital city located in the Upper Khabur Region in northeastern Syria, show continuous settlement from about 2700 BC. The Hurrians became known as fierce warriors, formidable archers, excellent smiths and great poets and storytellers who created magnificent cycles of legendary and mythic tales.

Source: When the veil that covers the dark ages of pre-historic Mesopotamia finally lifted during the third millennium BC when the earliest written records appear, we discover the existence of three different peoples who lived in ancient Mesopotamia and played a crucial role in the formation of that ancient land. They are the enigmatic Sumerians, the Akkadians, who were an eastern Semitic people that lived among the Sumerians, and the Hurrians, who inhabited regions further to the north. Even though other peoples like the Assyrians, Amorites (Babylonians) and Elamites also played an important role in Mesopotamian history later on, these peoples were the founders of Mesopotamian civilisation.

Scholars are not at all sure when the Hurrians first came to inhabit the northern regions of Mesopotamia. Some have postulated a “massive migration of Hurrian speaking peoples” into the northern parts of Mesopotamia during early Akkadian times, perhaps even earlier. Excavations at Urkesh (Tell Morzan), a Hurrian capital city located in the Upper Khabur Region in northeastern Syria, show continuous settlement from about 2700 BC. The Hurrians became known as fierce warriors, formidable archers, excellent smiths and great poets and storytellers who created magnificent cycles of legendary and mythic tales.”

Source: Ancient Origins, 18 August 2025, The Mountain Warriors Who Gave Birth to Giants


Giants (2020) by Dermot Kennedy
artist, lyrics, video, Wiki-artist, Wiki-song

[Intro]
We used to be giants (Ooh-ooh)
When did we stop? (Ooh-ooh)

Note: all markings (bolditalicunderlining) by LO unless in quotes or stated otherwise.

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